Noises - Front End

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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:11:54 -0600
From: Tony Bartlett 
Subject: Noise in front end after wheeling
To: toy4x4@tlca.org

Greg mentioned he had a snapping noise while wheeling and was thinking
it could be a hub, wheel bearing, or possible ring and pinion damage.  

Greg, if the noise is there when in 4 wheel drive and is a rotational
noise it is probably the worst, snapped pinion gears.  You might put
your vehicle in 4 wheel drive and leave the hubs unlocked, if the noise
is there then it is probably you ring and pinion.

If the noise goes away in 2 wheel drive with the hubs unlocked it should
not be wheel bearings.  Wheel bearings should make noise in 2 or 4 wheel
drived.

I do not know what type of sound you would get with a broken hub,
probably more of a ratcheting sound.

Good luck,

Tony

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:47:14 -0400
From: Sheldon Gardner 
Subject: SNAP...
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

Sheldon Gardner wrote:
> 
> Hey I saw some of your post about your front axle. Did'nt catch the
> original post but if you have a straight axle toy sounds like a brifield
> to me. btw did it feel like it was turning all the way in either
> direction? Birfield chunks can get in the knuckles.
> jack up each leaving the other on the ground lock the hub then turn the
> wheel, if you have open diffs it should rotate the front drive shaft. If
> it only goes a little bit then stops that's your busted birfield.
> Best place I have found for replacements is T.A.P. I don't have the #
> handy but look in the back of any Petersons 4x4, I think Jay's page has
> them listed as a parts source too.
> btw they should sell it at 75.00 if anymore they are trying get you I
> know cus I have bought 2 of em from them.
> Hope this helps
> 
> Sheldon
> sgard@flnet.com

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:30:03 -0700
From: Brandon Miller 
Subject: SNAP...
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

> they should sell it at 75.00 if anymore they are trying get you I
> > know cus I have bought 2 of em from them.


Then go next door and pay $35.  TAP is a rip off in my opinion,
everything is overpriced.  I went to two ther places and they both said
$35!
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:50:08 -0500 (EST)
From: "Dr. Karl Bellve" 
Subject: Front End Clunks and Leaf Springs
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, James Zaehring wrote:

> --- I then began to notice a pretty hard metal to metal (or other hard 
> material) solid clunk coming from the front end when I hit sharp bumps or 
> potholes.  I am not connecting the new problem to the shocks, but that is 

It could be your kingpin bearings. Just grab the top and the bottom of the
tire and see if there is any movement. You would hear a clunking sound as
when you go over bumps.

> ---  My front leaf springs are frowning.  Aren't leaf springs supposed to 
> be smiling? (curving up?)  The rear are smiling.  How difficult is it to 

They are supposed to 'frown'

Cheers,

Karl Bellve, Ph.D.
Biomedical Imaging Group
University of Massachusetts
WWW  : http://molmed.ummed.edu/~kdb/
Email: kdb@molmed.ummed.edu
Phone: (508) 856-3785
Fax  : (508) 856-1840

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:54:04 -0500
From: Darren Floen 
Subject: Front End Clunks and Leaf Springs
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

- --- I then began to notice a pretty hard metal to metal (or other hard 
material) solid clunk coming from the front end when I hit sharp bumps
or potholes. I am not connecting the new problem to the shocks, but that
is when I started noticing it.  How often do the kingpins go out on the
front end?  Could bad wheel bearings cause the same symtoms?  I did drive
through pretty deep water (over the hubs) about a week before and forgot 
to repack the bearings before the 2700 mile trip.  Anybody ever experience 
this clunking?
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James,check and see if the lower mounting bolt that goes through the eye
of the shock,is a tight fit in the bushing.To do this,pull the lower
bolt out,remove the lower end of the shock from its mount and run the
bolt into the shock bushing.If it is loose then you have found your
clunk.To fix it,use a bolt that is a tight fit in the shock and drill
the shock mount to fit.

Darren

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