Rear Brake Drum R&R

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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:33:19 -0500
From: The Brauns 
Subject: Toyota Rear Brakes
To: ToyotaStuff 

Anyone have any suggestions for getting the rear drums off a '91 Toyota 
pickup?  Mine are extremely stubborn!  I've backed the star adjuster all 
the way off - the drums rotate freely but wont come off the axle.  The 
manual says there's a screw that holds them on - there are only two 
shallow (approx 1/4" deep) threaded holes and a few other holes but
none with screws holding the drums to the axles.

I've tried tapping the drum through the brake pad inspection hole to no 
avail.  I even put short bolts in the two threaded holes & hooked up a 
gear puller but just pulled one of the bolts out!  I'm almost to the 
point of cutting the part of the brake backing plate that covers the 
back edge of the drums so that I can pound on it with a hammer.

Any ideas?  I need to get this done so I can get my rear diff to the 
shop - major metal particles in the rear end!:~(

Thanks
Stan
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:55:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Albrecht 
Subject: Toyota Rear Brakes
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

had the same problem a year or two, so I took it to shuabe ellison and
asked them what they do.  The guy mentioned the two bolt holes (you thread
to bolts in, and it pushes off the drum), but I tried it, and they just
stripped out.  So he showed me the other way they do it. 

Take a big sledge, and pivot it from your waist, kinda like putting with a
golf club.  Just swing the sledge at the drum.  You'll notice a lot of
brake dust, and it may take awhile, but it helps to loosen it up.  You
might also want to put some penetrant on the drum where the studs poke
through.  Anyhow, just keep wailing on it (slow and careful though), and
it'll loosen. I usually need to use a crow bar or screwdriver to pry it
off (I push against the backing plate).  this bends the plate, but you can
pound it out later without too much trouble. 

Oh, and don't hit the studs!

Good luck,

Jonathan Albrecht
albr9619@uidaho.edu
http://www.uidaho.edu/~albr9619/

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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:20:36 -0700
From: Scott Wilson 
Subject: Toyota Rear Brakes
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org, brauns@flash.net

I second that.  I used a 3 lb. hammer and kept whacking the drum all
around the sides (reasonable softly) until it started moving.  Wasn't
easy.  WD40 on the studs may help.  I managed not to bend the plate too
bad at all.

Scott
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 01:47:15 +0000
From: Brendan 
Subject: Toyota Rear Brakes
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

Mine were extremely stubborn as well.  What I did was take two metric
bolts of the appropriate size (I think they were 7mm in dia., can't
remember the pitch, but they're the coarse thread), and started to
attempt to back out the drum.  However, the drum wasn't going anywhere. 
Instead the axle flange/plate was bending back somewhat.  So I squirted
some liquid wrench around the stud holes and let it sit for awhile.  I
came back and cranked a turn or two on the bolts, but nothing happened. 
I then sat on my butt and started kicking flat-footed around the outer
edge of the drum (kick pretty hard).  This would push one side of the
drum in, and then I would kick the opposite high side.  I repeated this
a few times until the bolts could effectively be used to back the drum
out.  This worked great for me for both sides, and nothing was bent.  In
my case, it was the tight tolerance between the inner dia. of the drum
and the protruding part of the axle that was causing the difficulty.

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 20:29:50 -0500
From: Steve Capuano 
Subject: Rear Brake Drum Removal
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

Put your lug nuts on the studs and tighten almost all the way down.  Leave a
small gap about an 1/8 to 1/4 inch.

Heat the drum evenly using circular motion starting from the center and
spiraling away to the outer edge and spiral your way back in until you hear
the drum pop loose.  It should pop loose if not once you warm it up
thoroughly you should be able to rap it with a hammer and knock it loose.

Hope this helps.


Steve Capuano			1996 Tacoma ext cab V6 4X4
capuano@hypercon.com		31x10.50x15 Wrangler RT/S
				Rear LockRight  K&N filter
NRA lifetime member		Dynomax 2.5" cat back  Synthetic all around

Headers are next on my list.  Oh also a free flow cat!

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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 22:00:44 -0500
From: Steve Capuano 
Subject: drum brakes!
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

At 02:20 PM 5/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Help!  I cant seem to get the brake drums off my 4runner!  I've stripped
>the bolt holes out so I cant use them.  I've hit around the drum with a
>rubber hammer for a while but no go.  I even tried to spray liquid
>wrench around the lugs and in between the drum and the back plate. 
>Still no luck.  Does anyone have any other ideas?  I don't think I have
>any pad left on my rear brakes and I need to change them because I'm
>driving 100 miles a day like that.  Thanks for any suggestions in
>advance.  
>	Matthew Barker
>	1991 4Runner
>

Loosen the ratchet mechanism that spreads the pads as they wear.  Also 
check your E-brake cable and maybe loosen the turnbuckle(?) if Toy uses 
that setup, I havn't looked on mine yet.


Steve Capuano
capuano@hypercon.com

NRA lifetime member

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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 02:19:35 -0700
From: "Matthew Barker" 
Subject: drum brakes
To: "Toyota 4x4's" 

I have adjusted the gear as much as far as it would go, the wheel moves
freely, parking brake is released.  I actually don't know how many more
times I should attempt this shoe replacement because I'm stripping the
teeth on the gear a little each time.  I may try again tomorrow using
some of the tips recently posted.  Thanks.
							Matthew Barker

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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 08:47:12 -0600
From: loki@crestedbutte.net
Subject: drum brakes
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

Matthew , good luck today, do you remember reading about a tip that
involved heating the drum with a torch? I think this method was even
supposed to make it come flying off with force! check back issues to
find out the details.        Happy wheelin' Rob

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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 97 09:16:58
From: "Fisher, Gary" 
Subject: drum brakes!
To: toy4x4@tlca.org

I had the same trouble with mine. I backed off the cams on the rear of 
the drum but it still wouldn't budge. I eventually got it free by using 
an oxy (very carefully) heating up the outside of the drum. The metal 
expands from the heat and then pops off. Make sure to put at least one 
wheel nut on loosly before you try this, becuase otherwise the drum may 
pop off and hit you. Ouch!! not to mention BURN!

Gary Fisher
garyf@hpa.com.au
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