Emergency/Spare Parts Kit

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: barkume@tcd.net (Tom Barkume)
Date: 3 Jul 1996 15:00:54 GMT

In article <31D04EFA.C96@voyageronline.net>, RBrown  says:
>
>N. Muableppa wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I'm putting together a small "emergency" kit for my 4x4 to help keep me
>> out of trouble on extended remote road-trips.  So far I've got: jumpers,
>> tow-rope, small shovel, a come-along, fix-a-flat, duct tape, assorted
>> wrenches/tools, and some flares.
>> 
>> Has anyone had anything else come in handy, or are there any other
>> suggestions?
>
>---------
>  Some of the things I've found useful:
>     first aid kit
>     spare fan belts
>     spare distributor cap and rotor button
>     spare electronic control unit (for those with electronic ignition)
>     spare air and gas filters
>     fluids - oil, trans, water, gas
>     fuses
>     electrical wire
>     electrical tape
>     RTV
>     small assortment of nuts, bolts, cotter pins, hose clamps
>     water jug (with water)
>     machete
>     flashlight with spare batteries and bulbs
>
>  I have friends that also carry:
>     spare alternator
>     spare starter
>     carburator rebuild kits

This is a great start. Your kit should contain items needed to recover you
and get you home so start by assessing where you drive. A well stocked kit 
should have mechanical repair items, vehicle recovery items and personal
survival items. 

I would add to the above list, fuel hose, enough engine oil for a complete
oil change, tranny and diff lubes for complete change. a small grease gun,
parts such as distributor cap, u-joints, baling wire, duct tape, and maybe
spare hubs, axles, etc. depending on where your are traveling and how 
extreme you drive. 

You should also have a hi-lift jack, recovery straps, clevis', gloves,tree
saver, ax, shovel, and jumper cables. 

For personal survival, add emergency blankets,(the HD type not the cheap
ones), drinking water, rations for two days, compass, maps, first aid kit,
medicines if you need them, mirror, matchings, whistle and other goodies
that are listed in the Boy Scout manual or survival type books. 

I carry most everything I need in two Rubber Maid Tote boxes. 

The most important thing is to consider your skills, where your drive and
what type of trouble you could get into. Always drive with a bubby vehicle.

Tom

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: Jerry Bransford 
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 10:52:46 -0700

Tom Barkume wrote:
> 
> In article <31D04EFA.C96@voyageronline.net>, RBrown  says:
> >
> >N. Muableppa wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >> I'm putting together a small "emergency" kit for my 4x4 to help keep me
> >> out of trouble on extended remote road-trips.  So far I've got: jumpers,
> >> tow-rope, small shovel, a come-along, fix-a-flat, duct tape, assorted
> >> wrenches/tools, and some flares.
> >>
> >> Has anyone had anything else come in handy, or are there any other
> >> suggestions?
> >
> >---------
> >  Some of the things I've found useful:
> >     first aid kit
> >     spare fan belts
> >     spare distributor cap and rotor button
> >     spare electronic control unit (for those with electronic ignition)
> >     spare air and gas filters
> >     fluids - oil, trans, water, gas
> >     fuses
> >     electrical wire
> >     electrical tape
> >     RTV
> >     small assortment of nuts, bolts, cotter pins, hose clamps
> >     water jug (with water)
> >     machete
> >     flashlight with spare batteries and bulbs
> >
> >  I have friends that also carry:
> >     spare alternator
> >     spare starter
> >     carburator rebuild kits
> 
> This is a great start. Your kit should contain items needed to recover you
> and get you home so start by assessing where you drive. A well stocked kit
> should have mechanical repair items, vehicle recovery items and personal
> survival items.
> 
> I would add to the above list, fuel hose, enough engine oil for a complete
> oil change, tranny and diff lubes for complete change. a small grease gun,
> parts such as distributor cap, u-joints, baling wire, duct tape, and maybe
> spare hubs, axles, etc. depending on where your are traveling and how
> extreme you drive.
> 
> You should also have a hi-lift jack, recovery straps, clevis', gloves,tree
> saver, ax, shovel, and jumper cables.
> 
> For personal survival, add emergency blankets,(the HD type not the cheap
> ones), drinking water, rations for two days, compass, maps, first aid kit,
> medicines if you need them, mirror, matchings, whistle and other goodies
> that are listed in the Boy Scout manual or survival type books.
> 
> I carry most everything I need in two Rubber Maid Tote boxes.
> 
> The most important thing is to consider your skills, where your drive and
> what type of trouble you could get into. Always drive with a bubby vehicle.
> 
> Tom

Sheesh, all that plus a spare hub and axle?  Do you drive a 1-ton truck 
or have a support truck that follows you around!!???  I'm lucky to 
have enough room to carry water, towstrap and a few tools in my Jeep 
Wrangler.  Not that all those items don't make sense, they do, but few 
of us here can carry anything near that number and variety of spares by 
ourselves unless we had a really big truck.

-- 
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL, KC6TAY, C.A.P.
The Zen hotdog... make me one with everything!

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: turnerjd@aston.ac.uk (JD TURNER)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:06:29 GMT

Jerry Bransford (jerryb@cts.com) wrote:
: 
: Sheesh, all that plus a spare hub and axle?  Do you drive a 1-ton truck 
: or have a support truck that follows you around!!???  I'm lucky to 
: have enough room to carry water, towstrap and a few tools in my Jeep 
: Wrangler.  Not that all those items don't make sense, they do, but few 
: of us here can carry anything near that number and variety of spares by 
: ourselves unless we had a really big truck.

Well, Why do you think that no-one uses the Wrangler for serious, long
distance off-road work?

The LWB Landrover will take all this (except the axle, which is superfluous
anyway) and still have space for all your kit, and at least 4 people.

I usually carry in my 67 vehicle

Engine oil (1 Change)
Gearbox oil (1 change for Gearbox, transfer box and overdrive)
coil
points
Condenser
fanbelt
ignition leads
Filters
Full tool-kit
random assorted fastnings,
instant gasket,
torch
large swiss army knife/leatherman tool.

This stays in a box all the time, the box is about 18 inches deep, 18
front to back, and fits between the two weel boxes (about 2 foot.)

Then I have the following for off roading,

rope (20 feet)
snatch blocks (2)
gloves
hand winch
shackles (2)
spade and pick - collapsable
axe
high lift jack
jack pad.

With the exception of the spade, pick, axe and high lift these also fit into
the above box. the high lift and rope fits between the front seats and the
firewall (bulkhead), leaving the axe which is stored behind the bulkhead

This leaves plenty of space for everything else you might want to take, 
halfshafts, bearings, hubs, gearboxes, food, pistons etc... but if you know
the condition of your vehicle you should be able to take just the basics
as above and if necessary BODGE any repairs to get you home.
(torch batterys are usefull, because when the carbon brush goes in the 
distributor, you can squash the battery and remove the carbon rod from this
and using anything sharp cut to shape - this is what I mean by bodging,
and as long as it gets you home and you then replace it by the proper part
all is ok.)
It is a lot better to carry the basics, and have sufficient knowledge to make
things work again and not carry as much crap putting less strain on the 
vehicle in the first place.

Anyway, just my .02 

dont suppose u agree with me

Jon


 

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: ddkreiter@aol.com (DDKreiter)
Date: 4 Jul 1996 02:30:50 -0400

Today I made a spare fuse kit containing 3 each of every rating of fuse in
my 4x4 and another kit for my car.  My old spare fuse kit contained one
each and I used my only spare before I found the problem.

Several 4x4s in our group carry a clevis for attaching tow ropes or
linking tow ropes together to extend the wench cable etc.

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: leadfoot@fake.address.ca (Alexander M. Bilan)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 96 02:00:38

On Wed  3-Jul-1996 10:52a, Jerry Bransford wrote:

JB> Sheesh, all that plus a spare hub and axle?  Do you drive a 1-ton truck 
JB> or have a support truck that follows you around!!???  I'm lucky to 
JB> have enough room to carry water, towstrap and a few tools in my Jeep 
JB> Wrangler.  Not that all those items don't make sense, they do, but few 
JB> of us here can carry anything near that number and variety of spares by 
JB> ourselves unless we had a really big truck.

All but the spare oil and the axles =) They do not take up much room. As the
one fellow stated, he gets the list into two tote boxes.   Besides, you've got
lots of room in that Wrangler, remember, your not in some public parking lot
where you have to keep valuables out of site. In your case, you've got a back
seat area that can be filled up as well with survival/repair items. And theres
room underneath the seat as well for things like the tow straps and jumper
cables. 
 
LeadFoot
  //  The opinions expressed above are strictly the opinions of my fingers
\X/   and may not reflect the opinions of the other apendages.

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N. Muableppa wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I'm putting together a small "emergency" kit for my 4x4 to help keep me
> out of trouble on extended remote road-trips.  So far I've got: jumpers,
> tow-rope, small shovel, a come-along, fix-a-flat, duct tape, assorted
> wrenches/tools, and some flares.
> 
> Has anyone had anything else come in handy, or are there any other
> suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> -N

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: Denny Zander 
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:56:30 -0700

A piece of chain about 3' long with hooks on both ends.  Several times I 
have needed pulling out and the only vehicles avaiable did not have tow 
hooks.  It's a real heart breaker to cut a new tow strap.  The chain 
makes a great intermediat attaching device.  If the chain is attached 
with as little slack as possible, no damage to the tow rig occurs.
-- 
Denny Zander
Hillsboro, Oregon
[dennyz@ichips.intel.com]

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: davies1@usa.pipeline.com(Bill and Dawn)
Date: 26 Jun 1996 22:11:54 GMT

On Jun 26, 1996 11:20:16 in article , 'dingbat@codesmiths.com (Andy Dingley)' wrote: 
 
---snip---- 
 
now that is one heck of a Emergency kit...:> thanks for the ideas. 
 
>which contains a Gerber multiplier (much better than a Leatherman) 
 
but on this one....AAACCCCKKK!!!! my Leatherman multiplier will ply circles
around your Gerber...hehehe.  
seriously, the Gerber I had was a pretty good multitool but the dern thing
would pinch a blood blister on your palm faster than I dont know what. so I
got a Letherman because the fold out design of the Leatherman doesnt allow
the handles to come completely together when the plier pinchers come
together. also they seem to be about the same strength. 
 
                                           laters, 
 
-- 
Bill and Dawn '94 Ford Bronco XLT 
                     '93 Mazda MX-3  
 


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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: dingbat@codesmiths.com (Andy Dingley)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:51:14 GMT

The moving finger of davies1@usa.pipeline.com(Bill and Dawn) having
written:

>also they seem to be about the same strength. 

Will a Leatherman cut steel wire ?  My only complaint about the Gerber
is that the wire cutter is too soft.


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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: k-mcgraw@cecer.army.mil (Kirk McGraw)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:33:21 GMT

RBrown  wrote:

>N. Muableppa wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I'm putting together a small "emergency" kit for my 4x4 to help keep me
>> out of trouble on extended remote road-trips.  So far I've got: jumpers,
>> tow-rope, small shovel, a come-along, fix-a-flat, duct tape, assorted
>> wrenches/tools, and some flares.
>> 
>> Has anyone had anything else come in handy, or are there any other
>> suggestions?

>---------
>  Some of the things I've found useful:
>     first aid kit
>     spare fan belts
>     spare distributor cap and rotor button
>     spare electronic control unit (for those with electronic ignition)
>     spare air and gas filters
>     fluids - oil, trans, water, gas
>     fuses
>     electrical wire
>     electrical tape
>     RTV
>     small assortment of nuts, bolts, cotter pins, hose clamps
>     water jug (with water)
>     machete
>     flashlight with spare batteries and bulbs

>  I have friends that also carry:
>     spare alternator
>     spare starter
>     carburator rebuild kits

The above list is very close to what I used to take on Baja trips.
I carried a complete oil change (including filter) plus one quart.
Most commonly used items were duct tape and heavy baling
wire, very useful,  fixed a carb with cracked base with just these.
Oh yeah, voltage regulator too.  This size of this list is pretty
extreme, Baja is Ford country, and I was in a Scout.  For short
trips, you can get by with less.  The best thing to have is a
second vehicle.

I always carry the following behind the spare tire in my Tahoe:
  medium sized fire extiguisher
  first aid kit
  water
  flashlight
  blanket
  good metric tool kit
  40,000 lb tow strap with gloves and 4 ft. heavy choker chain
  jumper cables with goggles
  
All this stuff is securely mounted or wedged where it can't come
lose in a roll over.

Kirk McGraw

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: George 
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 06:59:21 GMT

I always carry a small 12 Volt air compressor and a tire plug kit -- 
Letting air out of your tires can give you better traction and maybe
get you unstuck on sand, etc., having a way to reinflate them is 
handy... 
WD40 which can be great for wet ignition systems...
Spare fan belts, voltmeter, electrical wire, bailing wire, electrical
tape, fuses, hose clamps, emergency blanket, hand cleaner, rags ... are 
just a few of the other items I carry... 
Oh and of course a good jack and all fluids -- brake -- power steering
--oil - gear lube, etc.

George
 
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: Jerry Bransford 
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:27:15 -0700

Kirk McGraw wrote:
> (stuff deleted)
> 
> I always carry the following behind the spare tire in my Tahoe:
>   medium sized fire extiguisher
>   first aid kit
>   water
>   flashlight
>   blanket
>   good metric tool kit

(more stuff deleted)

Kirk, 

You mention you carry an all metric tool kit.  Has GM gone to all 
metric-sized hardware on the Tahoe?  The last GM I, an '87 S-10 Blazer, 
had used a mixture of SAE and metric (strange but true).  In fact, it 
seems like my 1990 Jeep Cherokee mixed SAE and metric sizes but I'm not 
sure.

-- 
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL, KC6TAY, C.A.P.
The Zen hotdog... make me one with everything!

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Subject: Re: What Should Go In A 4x4 Emergency Kit
From: Bill Ingram 
Date: 27 Jun 1996 17:55:26 GMT

Carry a cellular phone and don't worry about it for local driving.  Be 
sure you can plug it into your cigarette lighter, because if you don't 
use it regularly it will be dead when you need it.

Of course a phone only works if you know where you are, but it is great 
for local everyday emergencies, ie. flat tires, out of gas, stuck, etc.

A GPS is a nice option for off-road and rural driving.  They can be had 
for less than $200.

Most people plan for long trips, but die when they get stuck/stranded and 
try to walk home.
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Date: 9 May 1997 08:48:44 -0700
From: "Jay Kopycinski" 
Subject: Rubicon...
To: "Toyota 4x4 List" 

                      Subject:                              Time:  8:31 AM
  OFFICE MEMO         Rubicon...                            Date:  5/9/97

denmother4wd@juno.com (Kimberley A Johnson) wrote:

>Have a group from NW Wa state planning a trip to Rubicon  mid to late
>July, all are used to hardcore wheeling in W & E Washington, some Moab
>veterans, but  none have ever been to Rubicon (all vehicles have min 33"
>tires, front & rear lockers, winch & will be trailered): 
>
>Have some questions for you Rubicon guru's:
>
>1. what would be the best spare parts to pack?


Here are the spares I typically carry on hard-core trails:

front axle shafts *
front wheel bearings
one front spindle
driver side steering arm *
draglink
one rear axle shaft
rear driveshaft
front driveshaft
tie rod *
hubs
u-bolts
spring center bolts

plus the usual array of belts, hoses, coil, distributor cap, 
ignition wire, spark plugs, bailing wire, duct tape, fluids,
nuts, bolts, etc.

If you trailer, you can get away with less. I drive to and 
from trails so try to stay well prepared for any breakage.

I would place the front axle shafts, steering arm and tie
rod on the top of my must have hard parts list.

I list these for a live axle Toy truck.......IFS or other
setup might want to carry other pieces.

________________________________________
Jay Kopycinski    '85 Toylet (ROKTOY)   '91 4Runner
Gilbert, AZ
ryna10@email.sps.mot.com
http://www.netzone.com/~jayk
Arizona Lo-Rangers 4WD Club            TLCA #3243
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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:08:00 -0600
From: Tony Bartlett 
Subject: Extra parts to carry.
To: toy4x4@tlca.org

Here is a list of items I either have now or will get for trails like
the Rubicon.(also planning a trip in July, running trail 20&21.)

1-Steering arm (solid axle..  Broke mine 3 times now)

2-Front axles--never had problems yet but here they do break mainly with
low gearing 200:1 or lower

3-Pitman arm--once again never broke mine yet but have heard of them
breaking.

4-Power steering o-ring--I do not know what o-ring exactly but hear of
o-rings going bad.  I will get a part number and let everybody know.

5-Extra diff.

6-Sometimes I wish I had extra computer and igniter just in case.  Maybe
in time.

7-Extra fluids (of course).  Coolant,oil,brake fluid,gear oil,water.

Anybody else out there have any special parts to add.  Or hear of
strange parts breaking in the worst places?

Hope this helps with a packing list.

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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:39:39 -0800
From: "Brandon Miller" 
Subject: Gear and spares
To: 

>
>>Those are the main ones I want to do.  I may head over
>>to the rubicon while I am west of the mississipi as well.  What mods are
>necessary?
>
>You'll probably want some lift if you run Rubicon, but careful driving
>and running the bypasses can get you through without it.
>
>

Don't underestimate the bypasses, the few that there are won't exactly get
you around the problems, just into other ones.  If you aren't afraid to pile
rocks and you have a designated spotter (the more sober the better)  you
will do fine.

>>Do some of the more vertical obstacles have bypass routes for
>>less equipped vehicles?
>
>Many do.....remember who primarily uses it  ;-)   What....what did I say
???
>
>
>>Also, since I will be a long way from home (DC)
>what should I bring for spare parts.  I bring along U joints and maybe a
>drive shaft and axle.  What are other potential breakages I should
>anticipate?  Thanks.
>
>The u-loints, axle, and driveshaft are good ideas plus your usual array
>of belts, hoses, and little wear parts......have fun!
>

I have beed on the Rubicon many times and have never needed a spare
driveshaft or u-joint but I have needed steering arms and birfields, that is
not to say that i haven' hit my driveshaft but I think the arm and birfiels
are more important.  U-bolts are also a good idea, whatever is going to
break is probably what you do not have though.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:16:25 EST
From: "james stevenson" 
Subject: OME suspensions
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

>I am curious about where you find the room to put all that weight?

The weight itself is easy to explain. The stock Dual Cab diesel weighs 
in at 1860Kg. Add the extra weight for Rollbars, bulbar winches ect 
another 200Kg. 800L of Fuel and Water another 800kg.  Add 4 Rims and 
tyres and spares like 4 Leaf packs and 8 shocks, clutch, bearings ect 
then add tools and recovery gear another 800Kg. Add in enough food and 
beer plus camping gear ect another 500Kg. Hey presto 4100Kg. As for 
where all the gear goes that's a bit harder. Space is always at a 
premium. Every nook and cranny is filled. The starting point is get as 
much under the truck as possible and out of the bed and cab. For example 
I run 3 fuel and 3 water tanks. You never put all your eggs in one 
basket so if a fuel or water tank gets a hole I still have 2 more. Loose 
your water supply in the OZ outback and you will probably wind up dead. 
You calc on 4L of drinking per man per day. Temperature in the desert is 
common to be over 45 degrees C (110F). The stock fuel tank was replaced 
with a 250L (55Gal) unit. The nurf bars are made from stainless steel 
tube and carry 40L (9Gal) each. An aux fuel tank (200L/44Gal) was fitted 
to on the opposite side of the frame to the stock fuel tank The spare 
under the bed was removed and in the space is a 120L (26Gal) water tank, 
150L (33Gal) fuel tank twin batteries, two water pumps, 2 fuel transfer 
and 2 air compressors. As the body is a dual cab Pickup the back seat 
comes out and barrier is fitted behind the bucket seats. The Back seat 
area is then used as dry storage. I have made racks that go in so 
everything is easy to get in and out. The back seat area is also secure 
so valuables go in here like the video camera's, lenses, Laptop and the 
Satellite Phone. I have built 3 racks to go on above the bed depending 
on the tip is which one I use. For the coastal forests I have a 
pre-runner style rack which puts 2 tyres in an inverted V above the bed 
with the Hilift jack shovel ect. I have another which forms a flat rack 
8 inches above the bed. This gives storage in the bed for 7 storage bins 
and the common use items are stored on the rack like camping gear. And 
the 80L fridge. The rack I use on long trips is like a fibreglass canopy 
or shell but mine can take heaps of weight and has drop down canvas 
sides and a ladder up the sides. I have made a rear tyre carrier which 
stores two 35's, this attaches to the rear hitch. I must add at this 
point that my rig weighs in at well over 4100Kg but I run a Chev 6.5 
Intercooled Turbo Diesel up front.

>Do you make your living building and designing trucks?

Yes, I am an automotive engineer. My business primarily designs and 
builds Drag Cars and Hot Rods but we do a lot of custom built vehicles 
in both street and off road form. I also work with some of the  race 
teams designing and building custom components. I am currently working 
with Superlift to get a 3-7 inch kits for the 86-97 solid axle Pickups 
going. As for the workshop I have all the good gear like Computer 
controlled lathes, mils and cutters. I can go from an idea to a computer 
model of the setup to a CAD drawing to a production part almost without 
leaving my desk. My next truck TnkaTuf3 is custom made from the ground 
up (I'm using the stock dashboard and the Dual Cab Body). I have made a 
new Transfer case housing for the pickup gear driven case with the front 
driveshaft output rotated below the case in line with the input/output 
shafts. I have a working prototype now and am about to make the moulds 
to do the production units. I did this by laser scanning the stock case 
and used the CAD to rotate the rear output. Then I made a mock-up on the 
mill in hardwood and used a sand mould to do the prototype. Checkout the 
posts on TonkaTuf3 in the back issues

James Stevenson
TonkaTuf Engineering Australia

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