Bedliners

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Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:40:38 -0700
From: kowski@mari.com
Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #198
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

>From: Brian Rau 
>Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
>To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

>Anybody had experience with the sprayed-in type bed liners?  I'm 
>weighing the advantages of one vs. the extra cost ($350) over the 
>standard plastic-type liners ($179).  Having owned neither, it seems 
>to me the plastic liner would tend to collect dirt underneath and 
>encourage rust, yes?  The sprayed liner supposedly NEVER rusts, and 
>will stand up to abuse with shovels, etc.  Thoughts, anyone?

Brian; FWIW, had a 92 Toy 4X4 p/u, was considering a bed liner but 
opted for Rhino Liner - sprayed on.  The Rhino Liner was about 80 mils 
in thickness and had a slight rubbery feel.  Found that when putting 
tools and equipment in the bed, they stayed put, didn't slide around 
like the normal bed liners, a big plus.  Also, friends who have had 
liners installed (drop ins) have had rust problems after a few years, 
my Toy stayed nice and rust free!  Was definitely worth the extra 
bucks.

BTW, if you go for the spray liner, suggest having them do the 
tailgate and over the lip, also, over the lip on the bed, saves a lot 
of wear and tear.

George Kolakowski

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:33:33 -0400
From: Brian Rau 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

Anybody had experience with the sprayed-in type bed liners?  I'm weighing
the advantages of one vs. the extra cost ($350) over the standard
plastic-type liners ($179).  Having owned neither, it seems to me the
plastic liner would tend to collect dirt underneath and encourage rust,
yes?  The sprayed liner supposedly NEVER rusts, and will stand up to abuse
with shovels, etc.  Thoughts, anyone?

- - Brian

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 09:16:04 -0500
From: Galen Sinkey 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

I have a Rhino-Liner in my truck, and its _great_.  I think its far better
than the other spray-ins I looked at.  I got mine put in at Rhino Linings
of Kendall County (Oswego, IL) for approx $300.00.  They are great people
to work with!

- -- Galen Sinkey 

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Date: Tue, 20 May 97 10:31:00 -0500
From: Rosenberger Bud 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: "mail@UUCP {Toy4x4@tlca.org}" 

I had an early version of the spray on bedliner and it was terrible.   
 Like rubberized undercoating. It scraped off and the bed was scratched   
and rusted in no time.  That was about 8-10 years ago.  I have a plastic   
one now and I love it.  I shovel stones and manure :( out with a shovel   
and a fork and no damage.

There are 2 downsides to these type tho.
 1. They do rub on the paint (in the bed and on top of the bed rails)   
Mine is over the rail which I would recommend against.  Just remove it   
every year and grease or repaint in the bed area.
 2. You can't put really heavy loads with sharp points in them.  I have   
moved some heavy equipment and it dented the plastic semi-permanantly.   
   


Other than that, make sure you bolt it in well!!!!!  I'm embarrassed to   
say that mine has "vacuumed out" at least 3 times at about 60-65 MPH!!!   
 It lifts at the front and goes about 20 feet up and sails (hopefully)   
into a muddy field.  No damage, amazingly, but just stupid/lazy on my   
part.

Hope this helps!

Bud Rosenberger
85 SR5 longbed
85 shortbed
84 xtra cab
brosenberger@lumsys.com

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin Valentine 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

I've been thinking about this too.  It seems like one advantage to the
spray-on type is less added weight to your truck.  I think the spray type
looks better.  I'm not sure if they would be as rugged as the plastic
type?  Do they guarantee them at all.  I saw an add that says your stuff
won't slip around at all,  that's a nice feature!  I bet you never get the
stuff off if you decided to and that could be a downside I'm thinking.

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:42:52 -0500
From: Galen Sinkey 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

I don't think there is a big weight difference between an insert and a
spray in.  If anything, the spray in material may be a little heavier.

If you get a Rhino-Liner, once you put it in, it will never come out!  I
mean, _Never_!

I got a black over-the-rails Rhino in my truck, and I think it looks really
sharp.  You're also right about stuff not slipping around back there.  The
only time I have things slide around is if they are fairly light weight and
I slam on the brakes real hard.  I've had insert liners before, and I think
the Rhino is at least as tough as any of them were.

I don't even remember what the gaurantee is.  I doubt I'll ever need it as
I don't really haul that much in my truck; I mainly got the liner for
protection from snow and rain.

- -- Galen Sinkey 


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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 14:30:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sam Houston 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

Ditto (except charcoal gray), I replaced my hard plastic liner with a
Rhino.  Wish I had thought of the Rhino to start with.  The hard plastic
one had been in less than a year and I already had rust forming under it.
Even folding lawn chairs don't slide on it.

Rhino has a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser.

Sam Houston
shouston@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 12:32:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin Valentine 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: Galen Sinkey 

Galen:  Do you know what that Rhino Liner stuff is made of?

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 14:56:45 -0500
From: Galen Sinkey 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

I think its a poly-urethane composite material.  What that means?  I'm not
sure; I'm certainly no chemist.

I know it can't be damaged by solvents (at least solvents available to you
and I ), and it doesn't get brittle even in extremely cold weather.  It
stays grippy, but is hard enough not to peel or chip off if you toss stuff
back there.

About the only way I think you could damage it would be sliding in a really
sharp heavy object across it.  I have hauled appliances, blocks, wood,
bikes, and camping supplies back there and it looks brand new.  Its real
easy to clean too.

- -- Galen Sinkey 

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:52:17 -0400
From: "R. W. 'Butch' Stiles" 
Subject: Bed liner: plastic vs. sprayed?
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

 My Dad has his '81 Toy sprayed, and he recommends it to ANYONE!
He tells me that the drop in liners don't even come close. I can go
along with him on this (come see the bare metal under my bedliner).
If I only had a job I'd be getting ME a Rhino-Liner! Later...
- -- 
Butch Stiles 
rokitman@erols.com
Just as it says, "Rocket Man"

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:56:10 -0700
From: Brandon Miller 
Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #198
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org

Brian Rau,
I have been debating the whole bed liner thing too, I recently put
Zolatone in my bed and I may have done a poor job putting it on but it
was a joke.  I could practically scratch it with my fingertips, not a
heavy duty coating.  Before Rhino Coating my truck I decided to try this
stuff from Kelly-Moore called 1700 KEL-GUARD RUST INHIBITIVE ENAMEL and
so far the paint has actually came off of the things that I have put in
my bed before my bed scratched, and the best part was that was only ten
bucks for the quart.  I rolled it on with a roller to get a thick coat
and it is working great so far.  There is a company out of Colorado that
has a roll on liner that is made out of recycled tire and comes in any
color.  They sent me a sample and it felt extremely durable and it was
only $100 for the gallon and all the supplies needed to apply it.  I'd
say if you got the money go Rhino, I have a friend with it and it is
awesome, otherwise do some checking for other liner materials.  I have
even pondered the idea of trying some of the stuff from the JC Whitney
catalog, they have quite a few different bed liner materials and are
reasonably priced, good luck.
Brandon Miller
http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~millerb/4x.html

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