Heater Fan



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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 15:47:55 -0500
From: Jeff Murray 
Subject: Heater Resistor
To: "'TLCA Mailing List'" 

Todd

Resistors work on a logorithmic scale so values are sometimes a little
strange. You should be looking for a 8.2 ohm 10 watt resistor wire wound
resistor. The wattage can be larger as this only expresses the amount of
power (heat) that it can disapate. There are also alternative that can
give an equivalent resistance of approximatly 8 ohms.

- - Two 16 ohm 5 watt resistors in parallel (both ends ties together) will
give an effective value of 8 ohms 10 watts.

- - Two 4 ohm 5 watt resistors in series (one end of each tied together)
will also give an effictive value of 8 ohms 10 watts.

Anyway, try an electronics supplier for an 8.2 ohm 10 watt wire wound
resistor. Try asking the supplier over the phone if thay carry IRC, Dale
or Ohmite resistors to name a few brands. The whole thing should cost
under $5.

Good Luck

Jeff Murray (jmurray@atlantis.com)

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 00:12:58 -0300
From: Rod LaHaise 
Subject: Heater Resistor
To: TLCAL@tlca.org

At 03:47 PM 11/7/96 -0500, Jeff Murray wrote:

>Resistors work on a logorithmic scale so values are sometimes a little
>strange. You should be looking for a 8.2 ohm 10 watt resistor wire wound
>resistor. The wattage can be larger as this only expresses the amount of
>power (heat) that it can disapate. There are also alternative that can 
>give an equivalent resistance of approximatly 8 ohms

My weakest area in automotive is electrical (that's why I have a heater that
only works on HI, but my Radio Shack catalogue (Canadian) shows a
non-inductive resistor 8-ohm 20 watts, 5% tolerance for $2.79 pn 271-120. Is
this what I'm after or is the 5% like a duty cycle?


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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:21:26 +0000
From: "Mike Graham" 
Subject: Heater Resistor
To: TLCAL@tlca.org

> - Two 4 ohm 5 watt resistors in series (one end of each tied together)
> will also give an effictive value of 8 ohms 10 watts.

  Whoa!  It's been a while since my electronics courses in 
university, but I seem to remember that to get 8 ohms and 10 watts 
with two 4s in series, you would need 2 10 WATT resistors.

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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:35:25 +0000
From: "Mike Graham" 
Subject: Heater Resistor
To: TLCAL@tlca.org

> My weakest area in automotive is electrical (that's why I have a heater that
> only works on HI, but my Radio Shack catalogue (Canadian) shows a
> non-inductive resistor 8-ohm 20 watts, 5% tolerance for $2.79 pn 271-120. Is
> this what I'm after or is the 5% like a duty cycle?

  5% tolerance means that the rating is 8 ohms +/- 5%.  In other 
words, it could be anywhere from 7.6 ohms to 8.4 ohms.  No biggie.  
5% is real tight.   Many resistors are +/- 10% or 20%.

 
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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 03:05:28 -0300
From: Rod LaHaise 
Subject: Heater Resistor
To: TLCAL@tlca.org

At 10:35 PM 11/7/96 +0000, Mike Graham wrote:

>  5% tolerance means that the rating is 8 ohms +/- 5%.  In other
>words, it could be anywhere from 7.6 ohms to 8.4 ohms.  No biggie.
>5% is real tight.   Many resistors are +/- 10% or 20%.

So it sounds to me like the heater resistor problem has been solved for a
mere $2.79, now I just have to get my wife to give me back my 40 so I can
pick one up at Radio Shack and see if it works.

Rod


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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 02:04:33 +0000
From: Willem-Jan Markerink 
Subject: Heater Resistor Pt. II
To: TLCAL@tlca.org

On  6 Nov 96 at 17:37, todd wrote:

> I'm still searching for an alternative other than specter's 50.00 resistor
> for my heater fan blower.Specter reccommends a 8 ohm 10 watt resistor.The
> closest thing to this I can find is a 10 ohm 10 watt resistor.Any electrical
> people out there know if this would be a suitable substitution?It's all
> french to me after Pos. and Neg. 

With 10 Ohm it will run 25% slower than with 8 Ohm. Not a very good 
idea, an old and sluggish fan would have trouble getting started, and 
it might run hotter than desirable.
You can run two or more resistors in parallel to get less Ohm, the 
formula is: 1/resistanceA + 1/resistanceB= 1/total resistance
So if you want 1/8, then 1/8 must equal 1/10 + 1/?
1/8 = 1/10 + 1/?
10/80 = 8/80 + 1/?
2/80 = 1/?
1/40 = 1/?
? = 40 Ohm, voila!

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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:47:54 PST
From: tiltontech@juno.com (Gary G Tilton)
Subject: Heater Resistor replacement
To: TLCAL@tlca.org

Todd     Todd@mail.sni

Todd I don't have my wiring diagrams with me this morning, but you can
buy a 10 Ohm 10 watt resistor from Radio Shack. 
 If the original resistor was  8 ohm your heater will run a little bit
slower on low when you put in a 10 ohm resistor. I will look at my cruiser 
this afternoon to verify the wattage and resistance. But Todd I
thought  the resistor on my cruiser was a 25 watt unit. 

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