Ignition Upgrades
------------------------------
Date: 18 Nov 1996 12:07 EST
From: "steve (s.l.) mcalister"
Subject: TLCAL Digest V1 #116
To: TLCAL@tlca.org
>Anyone have any experience with the Jacobs ignitions, specifically the
>Ultra-team?
>
> - Nick
Nick, I installed the ultra team in my 90 4-runner 3.0 VZ last year.
My goal was to increase low end torque and ponies for towing a boat.
I was skeptical as hell about Jacobs claims but the gave me a
money back performance guarantee for 4 months, so I viewed that as
a "take it and play with it" for 4 months kinda guarantee. Maybe it
hasn't worked for others (maybe that particular engine) but if someone
tried to take mine away, I would shoot them first. They claimed
18 hp, 9% torque and 2-3 MPG better. My seat of the pants dyno
knows there is an increase and they are probably about right! After
installing the Jacobs my wife drove the 4runner and she asked
"wow, what did you do to this thing?" After that she didn't mind
me spending money on it to upgrade it. And I know for a fact my
milage has increased 2 MPG! I gapped the plugs at .055 per Jacobs
instructions vs .034/toyota spec and I have no problems what so ever.
20K miles per set of plugs (NGK Racing), couldn't be happier!
- - Steve
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:31:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Albrecht
Subject: TLCAL Digest V1 #116
To: TLCAL@tlca.org
Does your system use the larger coil (I forget the name...ultra-coil??)
Well, I Jacob's has two different coils for use with the Energy Team
deal..one's in a case that looks like an omni-pak. The other is the
traditional round cylinder...
Also, what *specifically* is the difference between the omni pack and the
Energy Team?
Jonathan Albrecht
albr9619@uidaho.edu
http://www.uidaho.edu/~albr9619/
------------------------------
>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:24:34 -0800 (PST)
>From: Jonathan Albrecht
>Subject: Jacobs Ignition?
>To: TLCAL@tlca.org
>
>On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Nick Krest wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any experience with the Jacobs ignitions, specifically the
>> Ultra-team?
>>
>> - Nick
>
>Nope, just the Omni Pak. Used it in my '87 toyota, with 22r. Didn't
>notice a performance gain, but did notice a mpg increase of about 1-2,
>maybe better than that (my speedo was broken). I sold the truck/removed
>the omni pak/fixed the speedo all in the same day...but I definatley
>noticed the mileage improvement. Now it's on my other friends truck, and
>he hasn't noticed *any* differene....still at 13mpg (ugg).
>
>
>One other thing, *don't* buy it from Jacob's! They will try to sell you
>on a special 'one-time' offer...and it is outrageous! They wanted about
>340 or something for my omni-pak...versus other places 150-180..
>
>
>Jonathan Albrecht
>albr9619@uidaho.edu
>http://www.udidaho.edu/~albr9619/
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:36:44 -0800
>From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak"
>Subject: Jacobs Ignition?
>To: TLCAL@tlca.org
>
>Nick Krest wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with the Jacobs ignitions, specifically the
>> Ultra-team?
>>
>> - Nick
>>
>
>I installed the team on my FJ60 (1987 2F, Weber 32/36), including the
>spark plug spacers. I can honestly tell you, with no exageration, that I
>noticed absolutely no difference. None. Nada. The Big ZERO.
>
>Let me expand on this. No power change. No mileage change. No increase in
>pickup or HP.
>
>Wait, I forgot. There was one noticable change. With the high energy
>coil, my spark plugs cooked to the bone in less than 8000 miles. I
>couldn't believe the truck even ran when I looked at them. And yes, they
>were gapped correctly. In the beginning, anyway.
>
>Andy Litkowiak
>2598
>
>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:41:02 -0800 (PST)
From: James W Tom
Subject: J. Eskelson's Ignition Query
To: TLCAL@tlca.org
In regards to Ignition,
If you're willing to spend the dough, MSD makes a great system that runs
well. You can opt for the less expensive spark box -- MSD-6A -- that does
not have the rev limiter if you don't spin the mill that fast. MSD also
has a marine box that may be better suited for river crossings, mud
bogging, floods, etc. In any case, get a MSD distributor (many available
for Chevy) and your points days are long gone!
In regards to reliability: most electronic boxes from any manufacturer
are usually good.... but I've had my troubles w/ Mallory. I would neither
recommend nor sell any of its Unilite series since they've left me
stranded a number of times. As for MSD.... those Winston Cup guys seems
to cover 500 miles without much worry.
Jimmy Tom
Westside Performance, West Los Angeles
------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 09:00:22 -0700
From: nickkrest@batnet.com (Nick Krest)
Subject: Jacobs
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Scott Wilson wrote:
>Next on the list is the Jacobs Omni Pack...I don't think I've heard a bad
>comment on this list about any of the Jacobs ignition systems yet.
Actually, I inquired about them a couple of months back, and got no less
than a dozen personal replies telling me how bad and what a waste of money
and time they were. One guy even said I could even have the money if I
could get Jacobs to refund the purchase price of his Omni-Pak after he'd
driven a concrete nail through the case! I heard one or two "not bad"
comments, but nothing like the gains they claim. Essentially, what these
"positive" reponses indicated was that the Jacobs did nothing BAD to their
ignition, but also no appreciable mileage or power gains. Also, apparently
their warranty and customer service leave a LOT to be desired.
Experience with Jacobs, anyone?
- Nick
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 07:52:24 -0800
From: rmurray@gvn.net (Rick Murray)
Subject: Jacobs Omni Pac
To: TOY4X4@TLCA.ORG
Scott's comment :
>Next on the list is the Jacobs Omni Pack, or something
>similar, I don't think I've heard a bad comment on this list about any of
the >Jacobs ignition systems yet.
Most comments I've seen are favorable. However, Glenn Wakefield, on
the ORD list, thinks it was his worst investment. Very little
difference in performance, had some defects, including the rather
expensive coil failing (he swapped back in the stock coil). He drives
a severely-built Samarai.
##################################################################
Rick Murray 84 Toyota 4Runner SR5
( rmurray@gvn.net ) stock 22R motor ; 3" ProComp Lift
Rancho Cordova, Ca. 8" steel rims; 33" BFG M/Ts
www.gvn.net/~rmurray/ 4.88 gears; Marlin TCase #67 ; TRD LSD
##################################################################
------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:03:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Albrecht
Subject: Omni Pak
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
>I think you're on the right track. The only one of those I have had a
>chance to get yet was the K&N filter. Next on the list is the Jacobs
>Omni Pack, or something similar, I don't think I've heard a bad comment
>on this list about any of the Jacobs ignition systems yet. I figure I'll
>wait till I need a muffler, but I'd also like to get the Borla cat-back
>system.
I had the Jacobs omni pak on my '87 carburated toyota p/u. My truck
(before I bought the omni pak) had a really bad problem with knocking and
pinging for some reason. That was the main reason that I bought it.
After installing it (one wire off of the coil, + wire, - wire, and hook up
the spark plug wire; easy) here's what I noticed:
Still pinged exactly like before.
Still ran the same. Had the same power, and same occaisonaly 'lumpy' idle
(needed a carb rebuild, I guess).
It did, however get better mileage. I'm not sure how much better though,
because my speedo cable and gear was broken at the time, but it did seem
like I could go another day before filling it up.
Some have mentioned that it made a *huge* difference, others have not had
any gains. I understand that Downey offroad doesn't even sell it anymore
because they fealt that the stock nicodenso (sp) ignition was actually as
good or better (when new, anyway).
Currently, it is in one of my friend's trucks (I sold my truck), and we've
noticed zero gains there.
On another list (the offroad mailing list), Glenn Wakefield has mentioned
time and again that it was one of the worst purchases he has made for his
samurai, because it keeps breaking and he didn't really notice any gains
from it. If someone wants to talk to him about it, I can get his address.
FWIW, mine never gave me any trouble. Also, if you buy one, *don't* buy
it direct from Jacobs! They will try to sell you on a 'one time' offer
that's about 100 dollars more than anybody else sells them for. I found
the best price from RV performance connection. (about 180). Performance
products used to sell them for about $140, but I think they raised there
price.
I understand that they have a 30 day money back garantee. If you really
don't like it, you can probably send it back...you might want to check and
make sure they don't have any 're-stocking' fee's or anything else though.
Jonathan Albrecht
albr9619@uidaho.edu
http://www.uidaho.edu/~albr9619/
------------------------------
Date: 16 Dec 1996 11:10:56 U
From: "Jay Kopycinski"
Subject: Toy4x4 Digest V1 #
To: "Toyota 4x4 List"
Subject: Time: 9:24 AM
OFFICE MEMO Toy4x4 Digest V1 # Date: 12/16/96
Scott Wilson wrote:
snip
>Next on the list is the Jacobs Omni Pack, or something
>similar, I don't think I've heard a bad comment on this list about any of the
>Jacobs ignition systems yet.
The two people I know that have tried them both had them die due to heat
under the hood......but that was about 5-6 years ago. They also both live
in the hot Phoenix area...........FWIW
Jay Kopycinski '85 Toylet (ROKTOY)
Gilbert, AZ
ryna10@email.sps.mot.com
------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 96 09:59:52 -0600
From: bwiencek@kcnet.com
Subject: >Subject: Ignition upgrades
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org, toy4x4-dlist@unix.off-road.com
Well just my $.02 on the ignition system upgrades..... Save your money and spend
it on better breathing or rasing the compression. If you run a *Good* set of
wires, new plugs, and a good cap/rotor, there is so little to be gained from an
ignition upgrade on a post '85 ignition system that the money is much better
spent elsewhere... (I think it was in '86 that they slightly improved the
coil/ignightor?) If you run points - dump'em, like a hot potato, and swap in a
newer setup. I ran stock and 'hot' ignitions in my various 22R combos (stock,
slightly modified, and heavily modified!), and found so little benefit, that
after spending time and money, I ended up running a stock setup in my
Hi-compression 22R (milled/ported/polished/etc. 20R head).
- - Brian
P.S. for the same $200 that one would spend on a Ignition system I could buy a
20R head/intake ($65 around here) get a valve job & re-surfacing ($50), and put
it on a carbed 22R ($40 gaskets), and have more HP than you ever would dream of
having with the ignition upgrade!
-----------------------------
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 07:55:06 -0700
From: nickkrest@batnet.com (Nick Krest)
Subject: Ignition upgrades
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Rick Murray ( rmurray@gvn.net ) wrote:
>Well, now that we've thoroughly discussed JACOBS, what are the
>experiences out there (both good and bad) with MSD, MALLORY, etc ?
>I am looking to upgrade and would like to see a balanced discussion.
>I suppose different engines may have different results, so I am
>particularly interested in 22Rx experience.
I'm running a stock ignition, but have used both factory and aftermarket
ignition parts in my 22R, and the best "seat-of-the-pants" ignition parts
I've had have been: Bosch Platinum plugs, ACCEL 8mm wires, ACCEL cap &
rotor. Unfortunately, ACCEL has ceased production of their 22R cap & rotors
(not enough demand to keep production up) so I've gone back to OEM
NipponDenso cap & rotor for the time being. I'm interested in experiences
with ignition parts, too, though I won't change my coil, etc., to an MSD or
the like, due to smog legality issues.
Anyway, the Bosch Platinum plugs were very clean-burning, lasted a long
time, and looked good when I pulled 'em out. The emissions test I've had
with 'em in is lower than with ND's or NGK's. They run about $2 each.
The ACCEL wires run about $20 a set; pretty cheap! Good QC, good build
quality, 5-year warranty.
Anyone? Anyone?
- Nick
------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 14:43:33 -0800
From: Scott Wilson
Subject: Jacob's electronics
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
> I have seen a jacob's electronic kit at a truck and RV show last weekend,
> and was wondering has anybody bought one for a 3.0 L V-6 (4Runner)? What
> plugs did the company recommend? Do they have a website, so I can read up on
> it before I buy?
Frank,
I've talked with some people who've already tried the Jacobs ignition
thing, most didn't think that it did any good, but one guy had really
good results. I'm using the Jacobs wires (8.5mm) on my V6 with
fantastic results. I also put in Bosch Platinum plugs the same day, so
I don't know which helped more. (Probably the wires, but as good as it's
running I'll continue to use Platinums too!) Between the two upgrades
I'm now getting 3-4 mpg more. If I set the cruise at 65mph I can get
20mpg. (And I'm using that crummy California gas!) The only other mod
my engine has is a K&N air filter. I almost forgot, here is the web
page...
http://www.jacobselectronics.com/
Scott
- --
Scott A. Wilson __o __o __o __o
Santa Clara, CA _'\<,_ _'\<,_ _'\<,_ _'\<,_
swilson@pacbell.net (_)' (_) (_)' (_) (_)' (_) (_)' (_)
http://users.uniserve.com/~rcomber/scottw/scottw.htm
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 16:11:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Geiger
Subject: Jacob's electronics
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
> I have seen a jacob's electronic kit at a truck and RV show last weekend,
> and was wondering has anybody bought one for a 3.0 L V-6 (4Runner)? What
> plugs did the company recommend? Do they have a website, so I can read up on
> it before I buy?
Yes I bought one for my '93 4Runner. I did not like it a all. The wires
did not work well with the toyota cap. It not help milage or power so I
sent it back. Stupid thing.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 00:16:06 -0800
From: Matthew Barker
Subject: Jacobs Electronics
To: "Toyota 4x4's"
> I have seen a jacob's electronic kit at a truck and RV show last weekend,
> and was wondering has anybody bought one for a 3.0 L V-6 (4Runner)? What
> plugs did the company recommend? Do they have a website, so I can read up on
> it before I buy?
> I'm trying to see the difference between the Jacob's omni-pak and the
> Canadian version the Aurora. So far I have the info on the Aurora, but need
> more info on the Jacob's kit.
>
Hey, your in luck. They do have a website. its:
http://www.jacobselectronics.com
I have put their Omni-Pak and spark plug wires in my 3.0 V6 4Runner.
The following is taken straight from the directions:
"Use same type and heat range as gave best results before ENERGY PAK.
Jacobs prefers Autolite, Champion and NGK. (Bold type->Do not use
non-steel electrodes or multiple electrode unless recommended by engine
manufacturer in particular. Note-when using platinum spark plugs,
increase plug gap by .005".
"The OMNI PAK and ENERGY PAK ignition systems burn cleaner and allow
10-15 percent increase in oil change intervals. Whatever oil/filter
combination was serving you before will continue to serve as well after
installing the OMNI PAK or ENGERGY Pak. While JACOBS does not endorse
any lubricants, JACOBS studied many types of oils, both petroleum and
synthetics, and have had the best results on street driven vehicles with
Amsoil and the Amsoil bypass filter system."
"Note: Do not use specialty, non-copper core multiple electrode spark
plugs with jacobs omni pak and energy paks. These types of plugs are
designed to enhance a weak factory ignition. Our tests indicate that in
most cases they provide improvment over OEM equipment alone. Because of
the unique sensing capabilities of Jacobs computerized ignitions, these
type plugs can actually decrease performance. With this in mind, jacobs
does not recommend the following spark plugs with its omni or energy
paks (even though they may be good plugs for factory ignitions):
split-fire, rapid-fire, torque master, bosch super, U-Groove, V-Power,
Platinum, Silver and surface gapped plugs."
I've had this setup in my truck for 9 months now and I the only
complaint I have is that on one of my spark plug wires the insides of
the wire stuck to the plug when I pulled the boot off of it. These
wires are warranteed for life so I recieved a new one at no cost. Just
need to tell them how long the wire is. Good luck.
Matthew Barker
------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:36:41 -0500 (EST)
From: TXPakRat@aol.com
Subject: Omni-Pak vs Omni Team
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Butch,
I believe that you what to know the main difference between the Omni-Pak
and the Omni Team. Both are made by Jacobs. The Omni Team comes with a high
end coil, and a separate computer controller. The Omni-Pak combines the coil
and the computer into one small box. I think that the Omni Team has a few
more features. However, the Omni-Pak was slightly cheaper and having
everything in one small box was esier to squeeze into my already crowded
engine compartment.
When I installed my Omni-pak I ran into a few minor problems. First,
they sent the wrong adapter to run from the stock coil to the new
computer/coil. I called Jacobs and I had it within a few days. For the Toy
V6, they recommend regapping the plugs to .045 (or no more than .015 over
stock). After installation, I started to get pinging in the 1800 - 2400 rpm
range (V6) under moderate throttle push (not under hard or light!). I called
Jacobs, they said that I needed to go to a colder plug. I tried this and all
it did was change the pinging to the 2200 - 3000 rpm. I call Jacobs back,
they had no more suggestions. I tried calling Performance Products (very
friendly people). The guy I talked to explained that although Jacobs
recommends gapping to .045, every engine is different and I should try
increasing the gap a little at a time until the pinging stopped. So, I went
back to my original heat range plugs (Champion) and regapped to .050. That
decreased the range that the engine would ping. I stepped up to .055 and
guess what . . . no more ping. I tried .060 just for grins. It seemed to
work fine, but I seemed to be eating up more gas, so I dropped back down to
.055. That was about 9 months ago and I have not had any pinging problem
since.
As far as benefits, I better pickup off the line and easier starting.
However, I did not get any significant increase in mpg (until I added my
Borla cat-back a few months later).
Hope this helps! Let me know if you need more info.
Bob
Pack Rat
TXPakRat@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 00:34:06 -0800
From: "Frank Di Giovanni <",
Subject: Omni-Pak vs Omni Team
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
At 12:36 PM 4/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
I tried calling Performance Products (very
>friendly people). The guy I talked to explained that although Jacobs
>recommends gapping to .045, every engine is different and I should try
>increasing the gap a little at a time until the pinging stopped. So, I went
>back to my original heat range plugs (Champion) and regapped to .050. That
>decreased the range that the engine would ping. I stepped up to .055 and
>guess what . . . no more ping. I tried .060 just for grins. It seemed to
>work fine, but I seemed to be eating up more gas, so I dropped back down to
>.055. That was about 9 months ago and I have not had any pinging problem
>since.
>Bob
>Pack Rat
>TXPakRat@aol.com
>
>
Hi Bob,
I have a 90 4Runner also, and I'm running the Canadian version of Jacobs
Omni-pak. The owner of Aurora Electronics recommends using NGKs and gapping
them at .60, the motor has not pinged yet up steep hills in 4th gear. The
reason for gapping the plugs that much is because the volts is increased to
give a bigger and thicker spark.
_______________________________________________________
Frank Di Giovanni shoalseeker@geocities.com
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/1228/pics.html
1990 Toyota 4 Runner SR5 V6 4X4 2dr.
BFG All-Terrains,Trailmaster Invader sk,Warn combo winch bumper,
Smittybuilt nerfbars, k&n air filter, Hi-lift jack, cb radio, wilson antenna,
Aurora ignition
________________________________________________________
------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:03:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Albrecht
Subject: Jacobs vs MSD vs ???
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
> Has anyone installed any of the enhanced ignition systems on their
> 4Runners? I am interested, based on the claims, in installing one on
> my 92. Offroad.com has an article this week on the Jacobs test that
> sounds pretty good. What kind of mileage increases or power increases
> have you seen? Any pinging? Any other problems?
My experience: This is a Jacob's Omni Pak on a 1987 22R p/u.
It pinged before, and still pinged after installation. That's running
stock timing, and premium (92 octane?) gas.
Gas mileage went up. Not sure how much, because my speedo gear and
cable were busted, but it was better.
Everything else (power, starting, idle, ect) stayed the same.
Next, we put this on my friends '86 with a weber, header, and free flow
exhaust. We noticed zero changes.
I've read a lot of people's experiences about these setups, and they
very widley. Anywhere from, "it did everything they said it would, and
it's the best 200 bucks I spent on my truck" to "This Jacob's pile of
crap was the worst thing I ever did to my truck" (both are paraphrased
btw). One thing that I've noticed, is that consitantly the people who
like the kit also bought the wires (I didn't) and the people who didn't,
usually didn't buy the wires.
If you want to talk to someone who totally hates them, email Glenn @
gwbuild@allwest.net and he'll probably tell you his horror storys about
how they keep breaking on him.
Whatever you do, don't order it from Jacobs, cause they'll offer you
some special 'one time offer' that's like twice what other places want.
I got mine from Performance Products (180 bucks, 1-800-553-2840). You
might also try RV performance connection (1-800-875-2112)
Personally, I'd probably try MSD if I was going to do it over. It's a
bit more cash but..
__
Jonathan Albrecht
albr9619@uidaho.edu
http://www.uidaho.edu/~albr9619/
------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:47:32 -0700
From: Randy Ring
Subject: Jacobs vs MSD
To: "'Toy4x4@tlca.org'"
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 19:39:34 -0700
From: "Allen Jensen"
Subject: Jacobs vs MSD vs ???
To:
Has anyone installed any of the enhanced ignition systems on their
4Runners? I am interested, based on the claims, in installing one on my =
92.
Offroad.com has an article this week on the Jacobs test that sounds pretty
good. What kind of mileage increases or power increases have you seen?
Any pinging? Any other problems?
Thanks.=20
**********
I know two friends that have the Jacobs. Both are installed on V-8s and
both say they work great and the main benefit is starting (hotter
spark?) and rock crawling where the RPM is very low and you do lots of
lugging. In this case, loading up a lot on the trail was a problem.
With the Jacobs, it virtually quit loading up. One word of caution from
the guys that have them -- Be sure to get the kind that you can by-pass.
Because if it fails, you need to be able to use the stock ignition
system as your back up. Several years ago, I was researching this for
my 86 22RE, I talked to two friends that are high performance engine
builders (mostly V-8s) and they both said if you use a good set of SOLID
wire core spark plug wires and keep the plugs fresh, I probably wouldn't
need the Jacobs or MSD and I would be better off buying a good set of
headers. I went for the headers (Doug Thorley) and was very happy. I
don't know anyone that has a Toy that has Jacobs or MSD. I would like
to read more info on this subject from actual experience.
Hope that helps,
Randy_Ring@environ.com
Randy "Gnarls" Ring
85 Toy PU, 22R
------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:28:54 -0400
From: "R. W. 'Butch' Stiles"
Subject: MSD vs. Jacobs Ignition
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
Han,
I can't offer an pinion on the jacobs, but I had an MSD 6a
box on my last truck. In a word, awesome! That thing will throw an arc
over 12"!! The only drawback I could find, is that it consumes plugs.
On my vehicle, the NGK's I used were ready to come out after about 7000
miles, but that engine started at the first touch of the key no matter
what the weather. It would go right to the redline (and beyond) without
any hesitation at all. It still worked fine 5 years later when I took it
out and gave it to a friend to use in his car. So I can recommend the
MSD without qualification. Hope this helps answer your questions.
- --
Butch Stiles
rokitman@erols.com
Just as it says, "Rocket Man"
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 23:58:19 -0700
From: h2oman@wsii.com (George W. Waterman)
Subject: MSD vs Jacobs
To: Toy4x4@tlca.org
>Han,
>My bias leans heavily towards MSD......
Well I guess if I have a bias, it must be for Jacobs. Due largely
to the fact that I have installed one with great success. I have
an 89 22RE 4-Runner. I installed a Jacobs computer some time ago
(two years) and it has performed flawlessly. I measured approx.
2 MPG increase which represents a significant payback period if
you do not take into consideration other attributes. The car seems
to burn any gas without ping. Spark gaps can be opened (and they
suggest you do that) I do find the plugs do not last as long. Prob.
because of the increased energy through them. The engine security
function is decent as well. Not an alarm but a engine disfunctionizer.
You hide a switch somewhere that when engaged causes the engine to
run improperly like out of gas then it quits.
The MSD appears to work on the same principle, but I have not yet
tried one to be fully non-bias. The install is clean, relatively
simple but not for those 'all-thumb' type do-it-yourselfer.
Will Waterman 89-4-runner 22re
93-4-runner V6 (I like the old one better)
------------------------------
Back to the top of this thread
Back to the top of the Electrical System Threads Group
Back to the top of the Technical Discussion Groups
Back to the top of the Toy Thread Tree