Moab March 1997
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:41:07 -0600
From: Jack Alford
Subject: Moab - Part I
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Hello all, Some of you have asked about my vacation to Moab so I thought
I'd share the trip with all. I'll start off with the drive to Moab, as
with all my trips, even the drive on the street is generally quite eventful.
I'll preface this with all the mods to my truck I'd made over the
winter and hadn't had ANY time to actually field test any of them.
- longer mazda rear springs
- cross-over steering
- custom 3" exhaust from header back
- some other misc. stuff
My co-pilot and I leave Decatur, AL about 7am central time. We get about
30 miles from home when someone stops me at a red light and informs
me I'm dragging a shock. I pull over survey damage, remove shock
and continue on to Moab with only 3 shocks. Truck is a handful to drive over
60 mph. About 400 miles later I finally come to the conclusion that my tape
measure alignment job was about a turn or 1/8-1/4" out. At second fuel stop,
somewhere in po-dunk Arkansas we stop and add toe-in and turn front RS9000's
up to 5 and
rears to 4. Truck drives and handles superbly now. Can even drive up
to 78 mph which seems to be terminally velocity of my 33x12.5 BFG's or
at least how they're currently balanced.
The new 3" exahust has quite a healthy rumble at idle and sounds like a mean
v6 maybe even a v8 up to about 2000 rpm where it begins to sound like a
single engine cessna before take off. But the power increase with the
non-restrictive After-Burner 3" open-flow muffler are a welcome addition, I
now have passing
power at 65 mph and above, huge hills are pulled in 5th gear with ease and
have lots of throttle to spare.
We press on and at some point we heard something 'dink' the exhaust, we dismiss
it as a rock and continue on, only to find it was a nut to one of the upper
bolts on the pass. front shackle. We fix it with a piece of wire wrapped
tightly around the bolt snugged tightly against the shackle and wrapped
thoroughly with duct tape. This holds excellently for the remaining 800 miles
to Moab.
After driving 28 straight hours to Moab. We arrive in Moab around 11 am
mountain time. Driving through town we spot Moab Off-Road, a renowned 4x4
shop who can surely help me with my shock woes (the eye was almost completely
ground off the shock when the stud holding it sheared off). It turns out
Moab Off-Road is a J**P only shop and they give no help to other
makes of 4x4's and the guy working at the place was a jerk.
I drive on through the metropolis known as Moab and find another local
gas station that has mechanics bays. I walk in and ask if they have any
old shocks as I've decided a trail fix is in order as a new shock is not
likely in my future. This kind fellow points me to Big-A auto parts up
the street. At the big-A I buy the cheapest shock I can and a 3/4" bolt
and nut to replace the metric nyloc nut lost in route. And in the next
shopping center is a ACE hardware store, there I buy a 4' piece of 1"x1/4"
angle, which turned out to be quite handy on the trail.
In the parking lot is a fix-it type guy with a van. He has LOTS of
tools: air compressor,grinders, welder, torch, etc... Right Tony ??
At the time I was negotating with 'John' the fix-it guy, Tonly Bartlett
from this list was paying 'John' to work on his truck. Funny how Tony
was the one under the truck and 'John' was leaning against his van
smoking a cigarette. I discuss the situation with him, attempt to negotiate
a price. I then go to my campground , check in, pitch the tent and begin
work on the truck's woes. I cut the remaining shock eye off
and attempted to cut the eye off of the new, elcheapo shock but
was unable to with a mere hacksaw.
So, I gave in and went back to the handy mans van discussed the
situation and used his die grinder with some of my cut-off wheels
and cut the new shock eye off and ground the inside of the RS9000
shock eye to accept the new eye. Once *I* had done all the work,
the handyman welded the shock eye on with his little DC Mig.
He was a 'REAL' man, no doubt he would have been a cowboy 100 years
ago, he welded my shock eye on without the use of a mask or sunglasses
or anything. I did notice him moving his head up and down quickly,
when I paid him $30 for his overpriced time, undoubtedly to
attempt to see while avoiding the 'sun' spot in his vision from welding
without a mask.
I then returned back to the campground and mounted the repaired shock
with a net stud bolt. The shock worked excellently for the remainder of
the trip. I'm really impressed with the accessibility and capacity of
my new aluminum bed box.
After that was done I removed the shackle with the lost metric nyloc
nut and filed the shackle holes to accept a 3/4" bolt. After that I
jacked up the front end of my truck and installed some 3 degree shims
to help my driveshaft angle. I also installed my new Jay-Built traction
bar to the mounts I had welded on to the axle housing and bolted on the
the horse shoe shaped cross-member. After driving the truck with/without
the traction bar I was utterly amazed at the difference it made.
About the time I was finishing up one side of my degree shims addition,
Jay and his wife Sandra pull up in ROKTOY. They laugh at me asking if I
loved working on my truck so much that I had to drive 1600 miles just
to work on it some more ... With Jay is Joe Chott in his 1993 Land Cruiser
FJ80, Factory lockers front and rear, 33 BFG MT's. No doubt the plushest
4+ wheeling machine in Moab.
I get my truck put back together and ready to go and we head out for a nice
dinner. Sleep well that night, even though it is a bit chilly.
The next morning we rise early and head off to pick up our registration packets
and return quickly to the starting point for the days trail ride, Golden Spike.
This trail is quite eventful, full of obstacles and just generally a lot
of good 4+ wheeling fun. The trail started off with some switchbacks and
then
came to a tight,rocky, twisty, off-camber turn leading a short near
vertical climb. I made this with ease only to find steering problems
once at the top. I dismissed it as the front end being locked, I switched
off the front locker and proceeded on to the 'V' portion of the trail.
At which I had more steering problems though I made through the
obstacle unscathed and unassisted. At the top I examined my steering to
find my brand new draglink bent quite sharply in the middle. I turned
out there are quite a few different forces on a draglink than a tie rod
which I had the draglink from. I had always doubted the tie rods strength
which was why I had the 1/4" angle with me. We quickly assessed the situation,
removed and straightened the draglink, cut a piece of the 4' angle to
length and were almost ready to have the tail-gunner of this run weld it
up with his on-board welder by the time he reached us. Once the angle was
welded to the draglink, it worked flawlessly for the remainder of the
trip. A new draglink made from 4130 chromoly tubing is in the design
stages now.
What else can I say about the trail, it was great, lots of steep climbs
and big double and triple ledges to negotiate. The big named obstacles on
this trail were the 'Launching Pad', supposedly a 37 degree climb, it
was quite impressive climbing up it not being able to even see the hood
of the truck for gravity holding me back in the seat. Most everyone
made it up this with ease, the term 'slickrock' is very misleading, there
is no struggle for traction on the rough sandstone.
Another famous obstacle, perhaps the most famous obstacle at Moab was the
"Golden Crack", just as we reached the obstacle, we could see a storm moving
towards us on the horizon as the elevation was quite high (5-6K ft.) compared
to the ~4000 ft elevation of the town of Moab. In short order the temperature
had dropped severely and it had started to snow. I felt sorry for all the
people in open top J**ps while I sat in my truck with the windows rolled
up and the heat going wide open :-) The golden crack was quite the test of
suspension travel as Jay and I both heard the all to familar sounds of
tire chewing on the edges of fender wells as our suspensions reached there
limits travesing the wide, deep crack. We both made it over with relative
ease, Jay claims his extra efforts were just to make sure he got his money's
worth out of the trail which we had traveled with much ease compared to the
short wheelbase J**ps. Moab while not confined among trees and other natural
boundaries was made much easier by the longer wheelbase of our trucks.
My new track bar was working excellently as I no longer suffered from extreme
axle wrap from my soft springs and was definitely getting the power to the
ground as I climbed the many steep obstacles/ledges with ease.
Another 'famous' obstacle on this trail was the 'Double Whammy' it was
two large steps that were spaced far enough apart to where J**ps hit
both of the ledges at the same time and the obstacle was nearly impossible
but for the best equipped short wheelbase rig. Jay and I came into
the sight of the obstacle as a Sammy was backing down with engine troubles
after several failed, very high rpm, bouncing attempts. Joe Chott was
first to try in his FJ80 but after several very close tries, he backed down
and took the bypass. Jay was next, he pulled up to the first ledge and
gently powered his front wheels up onto the first ledge and pulled his
back tires within a foot or two of the bottom ledge. He then gave a
brief burst of throttle and bounced his rear tires onto the lower ledge
and climbed the ledge with ease with all the spectators cheering him on.
Myself, not to be outdone by Jay's effort, pulled up to the obstacle and
powered my front wheels up onto the lower ledge with ease of the 4.7:1
geared marlin t-case and *attempted* to crawl the entire obstacle but the
ledges were just too large. I backed back down a bit and with Jay's spotting
help positioned my rear wheels about 1-2ft. from the lower ledge, put the tranny
in 2nd for more wheel speed and with a brief burst of throttle pulled my
rear tires up onto the lower ledge and with the cheers and clapping of all
the spectators climbed the rest of the obstacle with one hand held out the
window and fist raised and clinched as I triumphed over the obstacle that only
Jay and I conquered out of the 40+ vehicles on our run.
The rest of the trail had several ledges and climbs, like golden stairs, golden
something else, etc ... we traveresed the remainder of the trail with ease
except for myself who needed a strap once as my rear end was walking left
badly as I traversed a chute shortly after double whammy to keep my bed from
being dented by the large rock.
The trail ended with a dusty dirt road back to the highway, this dirt road
was much fun as it was loose red sand, the track bar combined with the new
exhaust gave me new power and the ability to get it to the ground as I
made several high speed twisty, loose turns on the road. It was good fun !
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:19:59 -0500
From: Jack Alford
Subject: Moab - Part II
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
At the end of Part I of my Moab saga, we had just hit the highway
after completing the Golden Spike trail. We head south the 8-9 miles
down 191 back into Moab and pull into our temporary home, Slick Rock
Campground, to clean up a bit from the long day on the trail before
we go out for dinner. It had been a long day, we hit the trail at
around 8am and got off the trail at around 6:30pm, a full day of
driving it was. Just as we pull into the campground a blue 40-series
Land Cruiser swerves in front of me like he's going to ram me head on.
He then swerves back and pulls up beside me, only then is it that I
realize that this is the final member of our group saying hello.
It was John Barron and his girlfriend, Lori H., and German Shephard,
Cass, from Vancouver, B.C., Canada in his diesel powered
BJ-42, as he pulled along side we said hello's and he relayed that he
was going to run into town but would be right back. We pull on into camp
and clean up, then we head into Moab for dinner at a so-so, mexican restaurant.
As we're waiting out of the cold in the entrance of the restaurant (remember
that it snowed early that day!), Rick Pewe, Petersen's Four Wheel & Off-Road
Tech guru and writer, walks up and is paying the cashier, Jay had known
Rick previously from when he ran a 4x4 shop in Phoenix and I had meet him
the previous summer at the Rubithon, which he was shooting for the mag.
We talked with him for a minute and they left. There were several other
fellows with him, one of whom I believe was Phil Howell the editor of
4WD&SU. It was neat to talk with someone again who's articles and pics
you see in the mags. We have a mexican dinner and reluctantly head
back out into the cold and back to camp to get in our tents and try to
stay warm during the windy night.
We awake the next morning to a beautiful sunrise moving slowly across the
canyon floor toward us, Hoping the sun would get high enough to reach us
soon so we could enjoy it's solar heating as it was quite cold. We piddle
around camp a bit and then head out to the meeting spot for our days
trail ride, Rose Garden Hill (which was a 4). We find the location and
get in line and sign our liability waivers that the trail leader is
passing out.
The group then lines up and heads out. This trail had about 22 miles of
asphalt driving at the beginning and ending of the trail. We drove the
22 miles to the trail head, stopped and aired down and locked in. I hadn't
aired up from the day before so the 22 miles to the trail head going
55 mph with 15 lbs of air was an exhilirating drive to say the least.
After airing down and locking in our group moved on down the long dusty
road and slowly weaved our way back into a canyon after several
(22 to be exact) creek crossings. This trail gets it's name from the
large hill that is really the beginning of the actual difficult
(and in my opinion the only difficult part of this trail). Most all of
our group was locked front and rear and had no problems climbing the
short ledges going up the hill. From the top of the hill the view was
marvelous, the trail skirted around the edge of a large canyon with
some snow covered peaks far off in the background. Then the trail turned
inward from the edge of the canyon and the trail became just a rough,
rocky, bumpy road for the most part with the occasional ledge to scale.
While this trail was not that overly difficult, the views it provided
were marvelous to me the Moab first-timer.
The trail turned out to be a loop and we returned down the long, steep
Rose Garden Hill which we had climbed earlier in the day. After
descending the hill our trail leader asked if we would like to
drive down the creek we had crossed so many times on the trip in.
Our group, most of whom were a bit dissappointed with the trails
4 rating were eager for a challenge and I believe all drove into the
creek.
I must say that driving the creek was the highlift of the days trail riding.
The creek wound through a narrow, tall canyon with various boulders
strewn about that made the trail fun. At one point someone cut a tire on
the sharp rocks and the group stopped and some of us took turns using a large
rock as a make-to RTI ramp and drove as far as we could or felt comfortable
doing up onto the rock for some photos. The angle of the sun made the sandstone
walls of the canyon truly beautiful as it shone on the wavy walls of
the tight canyon that had been smoothed by thousands of years of sand and
water passing by them.
After waiting long enough for the punctured tire to be replaced the vehicle
next in line behind it decides that there is just enough room to pass
the vehicle. We all get back in our trucks and make the tight,leaning
pass of the vehicle replacing the tire. We head on down the creek which
had several challenging spots which required picking the correct line
or receiving body damage from the canyon walls or other large rocks.
As we headed on down the trail there was one point where the creek made
a sharp right hand turn around a large rockand then and immediate left back
around the HUGE rock. John's hard-topped BJ42 was having a bit of
difficulty negotiating the rock. Evidently the extra weight of the hardtop
was causing his 'cruiser to lean more on the sidehill pitching his top
periously close to hitting the rock. After jockying for the optimal line he
slowly crept forward as myself and his girlfriend Lori pushed against his
hard top and held it off the rock as he passed by.
Next was my turn, my long wheelbase made it a bit more difficult as
did my soft springs which really let the body of the truck lean. But
my short cab compared to John's full hardtop made it a bit easier. John
pushed back a bit on my cab as I drove by and held my cab off the rock.
We quickly left the group of J**ps behind us and headed on up the creek,
Jay found a large, angled rock that he drove his drivers front tire up
on to test his suspension, which worked quite well. Next was my turn,
I was quite surprised to find that my rear axle could pitch so far
to one side when one side was at full droop and the other at
near max. compression that the bump stop atop the springs would miss
the bump stop on the frame by quite a good distance. The bump stop was
about an 1" to the right of the frame mounted bump stop and the end of the
bump stop was about 1-2" past the end of the frame mounted stop.
The trail continued on with several obstacles and windy turns through the
narrow canyon which the creek ran. The drive up the creek was definitely
the highlight of the day and I highly recommend driving that creek for
anyone running that trail.
Once out of the creek and back onto the dirt road, we shifted into 2-hi
and raced back to the paved road on the loose sandy road. Having driven
across the numerous creek crossings that morning we knew that the
creek was only several inches deep and contained no large rocks. We all
had a good time blasting through the creek crossings and washing the
build up of red dust off of our trucks from the day of dusty trail riding.
Once at the end of the dirt road, we stopped and unlocked the hubs and
enjoyed being able to air up for the 22 mile drive back to town via
John's on-board air. After airing up and looking at the large range cow
grazing quite close by we headed back into town for dinner at Pizza Hut.
After dinner we stopped into the Slick Rock T-shirt company to look at all
the t-shirts they had designed for all the different trails around Moab.
They had a TV playing demo's of Rick Russell's video tapes and was stopped
for a moment to watch. Just as we were walking out the door, Rick walks
in, and I say to Jay jokingly "and there he is, Rick Rusell". He stops
and says hello and gives us each one of his Side-Kick OffRoad calendars.
Not that we asked, but he autographed them none-the-less ... He asked
of our days trail ride and Jay ribbed him a bit saying that it'd been
a good day if we hadn't had to wait on broken down J**ps all day. To
which he exclaimed, "You guys must drive Toyota's huh ??" We laughed
and said off course. We talked with him a bit more, thanked him
for the calendars and then headed back to camp.
Back at the camp ground we heard rumors that our friend and legendary
Suzuki Sammi driver was camped nearby and working on his troubled rig.
We stop by and exchange hello's and discuss his woes. John evidently
stayed up most the night tuning on Glenn's dual-Mikuni'd 1600cc motor
as the rest of us turned in.
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:44:29 -0500
From: Jack Alford
Subject: Moab - Part II
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Galen wrote:
>Just curious -- is the rating 4 on a 1-5 scale?
The scale used at Moab is the one the Red Rock FourWheelers (the
group who runs the Safari) uses. Their scale is from 1-4+ with
4+ being the most difficult and the trail guide says something
like "4+ - only for world class yahoo jeepers with no fear of
body damage or parts breakage ... blah .. blah"
>I wish there was a more standardized way of rating trails. I see people
>using 1-3, 1-5, 1-10, with either the low or high number for greater
>difficulty.
Me too, it's sortof hard to get standardized since nobody's really ridden
EVERY trail in the US to be able to rate them all the same way.
>Thanks for the trip reports. I enjoy them a lot.
Thanks, hopefully I can finish it up one of these days. I hope to
have my pics scanned soon.
- jack
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Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 10:48:30 -0600
From: Tony Bartlett
Subject: Moab trails
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
Hi everyone, just got back from Moab. Sorry I missed you June, at one
time I saw a group of 3 land cruisers and 2 red/white 4runners headed
back to town as I was headed out(Sat. 7pm)
I ran Metal Masher and Strike Ravine on Sat. I made it up the rock
chucker obstacle but had to get a slight tug up widow maker on Metal
Masher. I little passed mirror gulch I was making a 3 or 4 point turn
and lifted my left front tire between 2-3 feet in the air (first air
more than a couple of inches. Strike Ravine went fine, real rocky river
bottom. Anyone into very hard core body damaging trails, one of the
guy's in the local club I am in took some hard core guys from New Mexico
and Arizona down strike ravine, they got bored so at the end of the
ravine where you turn left up a hill (out of the ravine) they stayed on
the ravine. We walked up and looked at the obstacles (too much for me)
they had about 25 vehicles, 5 made the first obstacle and 2 made the
second. The two continued about 1/4 mile with a couple more obstacles
and ended up at a waterfall, instead of turning back you have to winch
up about a 14 foot rock ledge at about an 80 degree angle. I will have
to show up down there when they try it again. Should be a good show.
I would never be able to convince myself to even attempt the first
obstacle. If anyone ever runs the trail remember to check out all the
scrapes and paint on your way out of the ravine. Enjoy
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Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:21:39 -0600
From: Tony Bartlett
Subject: Moab over Memorial Day
To: toy4x4@tlca.org
First, I thought I saw Scott Wilcox Friday night as I was driving into
town, I saw a tan independent Toy with a chrome rollbar and three
lights but after reading messages he was not there that night. Sorry I
missed you scott.
Friday night-this new friend 'with the buggie springs' went down the
dump bump. Wow, no way will I try this. as his front tires hit the
ground his rear tires came off about 2 feet. I have a longer wheelbase
than him but I will not take that chance.
Saturday-ran Moab Rim. Can not believe I was always nervous about that
first off camber turn around the big rock with the ledge to the left.
There is a much more off camber obstacle up the trail further that I
took the wrong line (just did not like the angle I was at). About 100
yards from the top the Toy with the buggie springs broke a right rear
main leaf at the front edge of the upper u-bolt mount. We trail fixed
it with a big washer that someone had. Put the washer between the upper
mount and the main spring. It was strong enough to hold down the main
leaf and get us off the trail. He then parked his truck for the rest of
the weekend and rode with me. As Scott mentioned it RAINED Saturday.
They had over a half inch in under 30 minutes.
Went back to camp and had some wet gear. Cleaned up camp and ran as
much of Hells Ravenge as I know (to the hot tubs, then back to tipover
challenge and out through rubble trouble.
Sunday-Ran Prichett Canyon (first time and it is a great trail).
Everything went fine until the Rocker Knocker. We arrived there and had
a group in front of us with about 20 vehicles. Spent 3 hours waiting
for them to get passed. Two vehicles of theres broke going up the step
after the main obstacle. One broke two u-joints and the other sent his
rear driveshaft through his floor.
Rocker Knocker-the first sign for being a little nervouse was as we
arrived there was a 84 toy totally stuck. They used two winches, one to
pull him staight to clear his door than another to pull him left over
the obstacle. It was a little nerve racking. Well as my turn came I
made it up with my front tires and started to drift left and spin tires
so I stopped (need to stop doing that) After spotters said I was still
OK I gave it a little more gas and climbed right out. Then a couple of
minor obstacles. Now the Rock Pile.
Rock Pile. (looks easier than White Knuckle). First up, our leader with
a Jeep. Could not make it up and as he was backing down both rear
shackles travled to much and rotated the forward into the frame. backed
off and used a high lift jack, lifted the rear up and both shackles went
back to there normal position. My turn, front tires up easy, then my
pental (spelling) hook hit the ground and lifted my rear tires up. That
stopped me, backed down and removed the hook next try when right up. I
was the only one out of a group of 5 (one CJ-7 with lockrights at both
ends, one 80 Toy locked up in rear, and TJ with 2 inch tera flex and
open and a Cheroke with a locker in the rear). I was the one with the
winch so I winched them up (should have tried strapping them up first
could have been faster) Next up was White Knuckle Hill.
White Knuckle Hill-Still mean looking as ever, first time to try this
one also. Since it has been raining all day it was really muddy (real
nasty stuff there) I was first to try, could only get my front tires
up, so winched up, no one in our group made it so me winch got a
workout. Did not have time to try High Dive Canyon. Maybe next time.
So, our only real problem was one broken main leaf. Had a great time
(best of my trips down there but I am finally starting to try the
harder stuff)
Oh, anybody who knows the area, this is a good break in, the people with
the TJ did Chicken Corners as there first off road experience during
Safari. They went from that to Moab Rim to Prichett Canyon. That is
some quick learning. I know nobody likes talking about Jeeps but that
TJ works good, only needed help on the Rocker Knocker, Rock Pile and
White Knuckle.
Enjoy, have to prep for Rubicon now.
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:19:13 -0700
From: Tony Bartlett
Subject: Moab again
After the trip with Rob Boyle and Geoff Gibbs I went down this weekend also.
Was not planning on the trip but had the offer to run a couple of trails
with Jim Allen. Freelance writer working on a trail report for Four Wheeler.
We ran a couple of 'new' trails. One they call Minesweeper, but I hear
they are changing it because somewhere in Colorado there is a Minesweeper
already. No real problems on this trail and it is very fun. Had a few
difficult sections and we did have a full size Bronco on the trip so full
size can make it. He did hit a rear corner on the way down though.
I think most of us hit things on the way down. I wish I could explain
where it is at but if you head towards Kane Creek, at the opposite side
of the valley (the side you drive into first on the way out to Kane
Creek) take the first right and follow the trail up a narrow road cut
into the mountain side.
The other trail we ran was call the Pickle. There are only 5 obstacles
on this trail but the first two are tuff. The first one is tuff for the
short wheel base vehicles, but only one vehicle had to be towed up. The
second obstacle called the Wedgee is very hard right now. It is a very
narrow section of creek bottom with a wall of rock on one side (left)
and a slope on the other at about a 40 degree angle (at least that is
what it feels like).
You want to get up on the sloped side as far as you can to hopefully
clear a piece of rock that sticks out on your left side that just wants
to tear into your vehicle. But, the higher you get on the right side
the more you lean into the left.
I decided to go for it. Once you are in you have very little chance of
backing out. I got to my drivers door mirror when it started to hit the
rock. Was able to get the mirror around giving me clearance until just
beyone my door handle, then the rocks started pressing up against the
door (not to bad, replaceable) but after the door is my extra cab (not
easily replaceable). Hitting just below the window. I stopped, trying
to figure out what to do. Had everyone in the group on the rock wall
trying to push my truck just enough to clear, no luck. Tried ever so
slightly to turn into the wall, hoping for my right tire to start
dropping to start leveling out the truck, no luck.
Only other thing to try was turning higher on the slope. Thankfully
this pulled me far enough from the wall without leaning me to much that
I was able to make it through.
I only had very minor damage to the door and cab (mainly cosmetic, but
slight crease). Very lucky. Of course the person running my video camera
did not operate it correctly and missed the whole thing. Oh well, I will
not try it again. More than likely though is that someone will be out there
with a sledgehammer and break away the rock for more clearance. After that
it will not be worth driving out there for the trail. I could not tell you
where it is but it is located in Bartlett wash, (West of Moab airport)
off one of the side channels.
Had some great wheeling the past two weekends, met some good people,
had no breakage with very minor body damage. Great time in my book.
Now one weekend break then back down for the weekends of Easter Safari.
Enjoy.
Toyota Tony
http://www.digitalpla.net/~offroader
Oops, forgot to take pictures for a trail report on my page. Will run
Minesweeper again and will photo then but will not run the Pickle again.
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